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		<title>Pareto&#8217;s Principle &#8211; A Name for an Old Rule</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 07:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have often referred to what I called the 80-20 principle, the common idea that 80% of the results come from 20% of the work. I have set up a portfolio to test the theory called the 80-20 portfolio. Who knew this was an actual economic concept and not just an old wives tale.  It [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often referred to what I called the 80-20 principle, the common idea that 80% of the results come from 20% of the work. I have set up a portfolio to test the theory called the 80-20 portfolio. Who knew this was an actual economic concept and not just an old wives tale.  It turns out this rule was actually developed by an Italian economist named Vilfredo Pareto. Around 1906 Pareto discovered that roughly 80% of the wealth in Italy was owned by 20% of the people. When he turned to other countries, he found that the percentage was roughly the same. The real result is actually a range. Sometimes 90% to 10% in others 70%-30%. But the principle is still valid. There is an important concentration of results to inputs. Most interesting to me is that the Pareto Principle is an example of a power law. I won&#8217;t get into Power laws now, but they have appeal in appreacing the concepts of Long tail events. Perhaps I need to rename my 80-20 portfolio to Pareto&#8217;s Peanuts.</p>
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		<title>Portfolio Updates</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 05:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[80-20 Investing]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a quick update on the status of both portfolio&#8217;s for their first month. From here on, I will only update quarterly, because a shorter time frame than that seems silly. Small Investor Portfolio Current Positions DUCK up 27.2% IFON down 13.2 % Closed Positions ORXE up 31.% including commissions. This is all well [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a quick update on the status of both portfolio&#8217;s for their first month. From here on, I will only update quarterly, because a shorter time frame than that seems silly.</p>
<p>Small Investor Portfolio</p>
<p>Current Positions</p>
<p>DUCK up 27.2%</p>
<p>IFON down 13.2 %</p>
<p>Closed Positions</p>
<p>ORXE up 31.% including commissions.</p>
<p>This is all well and good, but I did not completely deploy capital so where is this portfolio really?</p>
<p>Started with $2000. Value of account before additions and other amounts, including commissions paid is $2204.88 for a total of 10.2% gain in approximately one month. Also made one monthly deposit of $200. Also received Choice Trade promo offer of $50 as discussed in my posts about choosing an online broker. Total account value today is $2454.88</p>
<p>80-20 Portfolio</p>
<p>Closed positions</p>
<p>HAST up 57%</p>
<p>Opened account with $5000 Account is worth $5285.75 including commissions paid but not additions. That is 5.7% up on the portfolio for the month. I have added my monthly amount of  $300, so the actual current total is  $5585.75. There are no current positions in this account.</p>
<p>The S &amp; P 500 gain in the same period is 3.06% although given my investments perhaps a better comparison is the Russell Small Cap index was about 6.9% A one month result and the subsequent comparison to an index is really very silly, since it is too early to compare anything to anything else.</p>
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		<title>Avoiding Confirmation Bias</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Behavioral Finance]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[As I have mentioned previously, one of the points of the 80-20 Portfolio is to incorporate some of the research of Behavioral Finance into an Investing Strategy. One of the behavioral traps we go through is something called Confirmation Bias. In short, this is when you look at facts that agree with your investing thesis [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have mentioned previously, one of the points of the <a title="80-20 Portfolio defined" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/04/17/investing-strategies-for-the-small-investor-and-80-20-portfolios/" target="_blank">80-20 Portfolio</a> is to incorporate some of the research of Behavioral Finance into an Investing Strategy. One of the behavioral traps we go through is something called Confirmation Bias. In short, this is when you look at facts that agree with your investing thesis as confirmation of that strategy. This is a slippery slope and one that we all fall into even if we are aware of it.</p>
<p>I first learned about this concept when reading Nassim Taleb&#8217;s book <em>The Black Swan</em>. He called confirmation bias &#8220;naive empiricism&#8221;. He said, &#8220;<em>You take past instances that corroborate your theories and you treat them as evidence.</em>&#8221; Further he writes, &#8220;<em>I am saying that a series of corroborative facts is not necessarily evidence.  Seeing white swans does not confirm the nonexistence of black swans.&#8221; </em>He cites a study by P.C. Wason. In the experiment subjects were given a three number sequence of 2,4,6 and asked what rule would generate this sequence. &#8220;<em>Their method of guessing was to produce other three-number sequences, to which the experimenter would respond &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;no&#8221; depending on whether the new sequences were consistent with the rule. Once confident with their answers, the subjects would formulate the rule.</em>&#8221; The problem is that most people will say something like 8,10,12. And the answer would be yes. After a couple of confirming examples you would announce that the rule was add 2 to the number before it, in succession. But the correct answer is actually any ascending numbers. I failed this example when I read it one of James Montier&#8217;s writings when he posed the question to the reader. I was reading about the problem and still fell for it.</p>
<p>How to prevent confirmation bias in our approach to investing?  Taleb directs us back to Karl Popper and his concept of &#8220;falsification.&#8221; We should attempt to prove false the ideas we are using. Again Taleb, &#8220;<em>We can get closer to the truth by negative instances, not by verification!</em>&#8220;  Popper, Taleb says leads the way out of our darkness, he &#8220;<em>&#8230;introduced the mechanism of conjectures and refutations, which works as follows: you formulate a (bold) conjecture and you start looking for the observation that would prove you wrong. This is the alternative to our search for confirmatory instances. If you think the task is easy, you will be disappointed—few humans have a natural ability to do this.</em>&#8221; In the Wason study, the way to figure out the proper rule would have been to submit numbers that declined, alternated, etc. To prove what the actual rule was by ruling out as many of the opposites as possible. It is only by figuring out what doesn&#8217;t work that you figure out what does.</p>
<p>The interesting idea to ponder is that if you are naturally a contrarian, like I am, you will be instinctively drawn to contrarian investing ideas, like value investing.  These ideas make more sense to me, than say momentum investing. But, am I really just looking for investing ideas that confirm my pre-existing biases? Perhaps.</p>
<p>It may also be why, even though I consider myself a value investor, I have not felt compelled to be bound by some rules that seem to appear in the blogsphere. Investing is ultimately a path, not a destination, this is just another pot hole to avoid.</p>
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		<title>Investing Regret</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a dose of Investing regret the other day. I have posted about my terrific gain on HAST for the 80-20 portfolio. Right after I sold it at $7.17/share, the price dipped. But then it soared. Then it  had a spectacular rise to over $9.00/share. I was, of course, bummed that I had not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a dose of Investing regret the other day. I have posted about my terrific gain on <a title="HAST sold" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/04/20/hast-hasting-entertainment-80-20-portfolio-sold/" target="_blank">HAST</a> for the 80-20 portfolio. Right after I sold it at $7.17/share, the price dipped. But then it soared. Then it  had a spectacular rise to over $9.00/share. I was, of course, bummed that I had not gone for the ride, but I nevertheless felt good about my decision to sell. The point of the 80-20 portfolio was to remove emotion and other behavioral traps that might reduce my investing gains. That might sound contradictory, but it is not. I stated that my  selling strategy would be to sell on a 50% gain. Once I had achieved a 57% gain, I sold. My goal had been achieved and the continued rise of the stock was not part of my investment process. Moreover, I could no longer safely keep the stock in my portfolio because I had no investment thesis that supported keeping it. I am not saying there wasn&#8217;t an investment thesis that supported it, just that I don&#8217;t have one. Moreover I am testing an investment strategy in this portfolio, so had I kept the stock it would have been as product of emotion, not of sound investing practice.</p>
<p>Today as the market dropped over 2%, HAST dropped over 17% to exactly the price sold at last week. Regret comes and goes. I have moved on to other  investment prospects.</p>
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		<title>HAST &#8211; Hasting Entertainment &#8211; 80-20 Portfolio &#8211; SOLD</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a quick update on HAST. I sold all 110 shares at $7.19 this morning for a total, minus the $4.50 Zecco commission, of $786.40. While the 57% increase on this investment in less than three weeks is unexpected in its quickness, it is too early to say whether the 80-20 strategy is worthwhile. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick update on HAST. I sold all 110 shares at $7.19 this morning for a total, minus the $4.50 Zecco commission, of $786.40. While the 57% increase on this investment in less than three weeks is unexpected in its quickness, it is too early to say whether the 80-20 strategy is worthwhile. I have not had a chance to find another purchase for 80-20 Portfolio, although I have identified several candidates. None have pasted all the criteria. There seems to be a large difference in how I am calculating the Piotroski F score and how Stock Investor Pro calculates it.</p>
<p>Also, remember that this profit in HAST is  only a 5.7% increase in the 80-20 portfolio. Now obviously if I could make 5% a month, every month I would be quite, pleased. But I don&#8217;t have those kind of expectations.</p>
<p>Disclosure: I have no current positions in HAST.</p>
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		<title>HAST &#8211; Hasting Entertainment BUY 80-20 Portfolio</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On April 7th I purchased 110 shares of Hasting Entertainment &#8211; HAST for $4.51/share including the $4.50 commission from Zecco the total comes to a total investment $500.60. This was for the 80-20 Portfolio. I know, I am late in posting about it. But I had to lay out what the criteria were before I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On April 7th I purchased 110 shares of Hasting Entertainment &#8211; HAST for $4.51/share including the $4.50 commission from Zecco the total comes to a total investment $500.60. This was for the 80-20 Portfolio. I know, I am late in posting about it. But I had to lay out what the criteria were before I told you about purchases otherwise a buy like this will not make sense. I will lay out the 80-20 purchases in a different manner than the Small Investor Portfolio. There will be no risk section. The risk is that the mechanical investing strategy I have set up will not work, or that I have not enacted the proper strategy to capitalize on all the research. This is a serious risk. There are no stories. I have purposely not looked at anything other than the financial information on this company. I am trying hard NOT to think about this investment. If you have not read my post about the Investing strategy for the <a title="80-20 Investing Portfolio Strategy" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/04/17/investing-strategies-for-the-small-investor-and-80-20-portfolios/" target="_blank">80-20 portfolio</a> it might help to understand what I am doing.</p>
<p>I do not recommend purchasing this stock anymore, since it has appreciated so much in the past two weeks. In fact it has come very close to my selling point. I did not get my order filled or I would have sold it today.</p>
<p>Here is why I purchased this stock</p>
<p>1. Piotroski F-score of 9 (out of a possible 9)</p>
<p>2. Net Current Asset Value of approximately $4.54/share (so, price was just under Net Current Asset Value.</p>
<p>3. Negative Asset Growth.</p>
<p>4. Altman Z score for non-Manufacturing companies 3.77</p>
<p>5. Price to Book .59</p>
<p>Strategy: Put in a limit order when it crosses 50% gain again, which it did earlier today, but my sell order did not get filled.</p>
<p>Disclosure: As of this posting I own 110 shares of HAST. I do not recommending buying them right now.</p>
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		<title>Investing Strategies for the Small Investor and 80-20 Portfolios</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you begin to invest you need to develop an investing strategy. Having a strategy is like a google map. It will help direct you down the right freeway and hopefully help you avoid the pitfalls, er traffic, and get to the destination you want.  If you are at this website you know my overall [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you begin to invest you need to develop an investing strategy. Having a strategy is like a google map. It will help direct you down the right freeway and hopefully help you avoid the pitfalls, er traffic, and get to the destination you want.  If you are at this website you know my overall approach is value investing. But value investing is sort of like the judge&#8217;s definition of pornography, &#8220;I know it when I see it.&#8221; I have set up two accounts with different although similar investing value investing criteria but with very different overall strategies. So what are the criteria for investments in the Small Investor and the  80-20 Portfolios?</p>
<p>The first account I set up was the  Small Investor Portfolio. I started it with $2000. I will add $200/month to the account. It is meant to replicate what a beginning value investor or a value investor with a small amount of capital might be able to do on his own.  You can see the three stocks I have purchased for this portfolio already  by looking at <a title="IFON a NCAV stock" href="../2010/04/09/ifon-infosonics-ncav-stock-buy-small-investor-portfolio/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" target="_blank">IFON</a>, <a title="DUCK A net net stock" href="../2010/04/13/duck-duckwall-alco-stores-a-ncav-stock-buy-small-investor-portfolio/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" target="_blank">DUCK</a> and <a title="ORXE a NCAV Pharma stock" href="../2010/04/14/orxe-ore-pharamceutical-holdings-ncav-pharma-stock-bought-and-sold/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" target="_blank">ORXE</a>.</p>
<p>This fund will be  primarily an asset valued portfolio relying heavily on <a title="Net Net stocks defined" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2009/08/05/what-is-a-net-net-stock/" target="_blank">Net Net stocks</a> and other asset valuation strategies in the vein of Benjamin Graham. The stocks should have at least a 33% discount to Net Current Asset Value or some other Margin of Safety from intrinsic value.   I will create a spreadsheet to track the financial information that I glean from a companies financial statements. I will also read the latest 10k and 10Q&#8217;s looking for trouble or problems. Finally, I will do a little scuttlebutt research to see if I can see if there is a sig alert (for non Los Angelinos, that is when one or more lanes get shut down on a freeway) for the company. The Small Investor Portfolio will rely  heavily on analysis both quantitative and qualitative. I will take my cue mostly from asset valuation focused investors like Ben Graham and not from future earnings oriented investors like Warren Buffett. I will not be doing any Discounted Cash Flow analysis or looking for Owner&#8217;s Earnings growth. The strategy will be to identify these cigar butt, stocks that are discounted from their Intrinsic value and purchase them with a Margin of Safety. Unlike some other value investors I will include ADR (foreign stocks listed on an American exchange) and Penny stocks that trade on the Pink sheets or over the counter. The stocks should have a positive net income. The exceptions will be companies with positive operating income, with one time charges offs or discontinued operations. The other exception to positive Net Income will be biotech or pharma stocks with huge upside potential.  I will hold the stocks until I have reached the stocks intrinsic value or the circumstances surrounding the company change significantly enough to warrant a reevaluation of the company. If my estimation of the company&#8217;s value changes significantly in a negative manner, then I will sell the stock. In some cases I will utilize some special situation stocks in the manner outlined by Joel Greenblatt in his book <em>You Can be a Stock Market Genius</em>. I will explore these situations as they come up. And although ORXE was a NCAV stock, I consider it a special situation stock. With only $2000 to start, the small investor portfolio will be a Focused portfolio containing initially no more than 4 stocks. As the account grows with profits or the monthly capital additions I will expand this to at most 8 positions, and begin to increase the dollar amounts as the account grows. If the opportunity is there I will try to remain 80% invested at all times, retaining 20% in cash for new opportunities that come up, particularly if the market declines. If the Net Net and special situations dry up, I will stay in cash or reevaluate the investment strategy. This will be a long only portfolio. I will avoid financial stocks because I do not know how to evaluate their assets in a meaningful way.</p>
<p>The concept for the 80-20 investing portfolio is simple. Set up a few simple established value investing principles, make them stringent and then buy every stock that passes the criteria. So while the value investing criteria may be similar to the Small Investor Porfolio the strategy is not.  Some of these criteria  are concepts I have not yet covered in this blog, but I will post about them in the ensuing weeks. The criteria will include a combination of the following:</p>
<p>1. Price to Book ratio in the bottom 20% of stocks screened.</p>
<p>2. a Piotroski F score of 7 or better.</p>
<p>3. The annual growth in total assets should be in the lowest 20% of companies screened (currently negative double digit asset growth).</p>
<p>4. A passing score on the appropriate Altman Z score.That means above 3.o for Manufacturing companies and 2.6 for other companies.</p>
<p>5. Net Current Asset value equal to or greater than market cap.</p>
<p>6. Ratio of current P/E to 7-10 year P/E is less than 1.</p>
<p>7. Price to Sales ratio  less than 1.</p>
<p>There is no margin of safety per se. I think that by combing the different criteria that have been tested over the long term and then adding criteria that should minimize the down risk suck as Altman Z score, I am hoping that I have built in a margin of safety into the criteria itself.</p>
<p>In the future I will introduce a system for Hedging downside risk by using LEAPs or long term Asset Protected securities. This is the flip side to long positions. More about this in a future post. Thus this will be a long and short (although only using options) portfolio.</p>
<p>The strategy is buy as many of these positions as you can.  If I run out of cash, I will only replace a position in the portfolio with a better position. Since intrinsic value will be more difficult to calculate, I will hold the stock until the stock appreciates 50% and sell. If it declines or fails to meet my sell price I will sell at two years.</p>
<p>All the analysis has gone into the set-up. I will not be doing heavy analysis for this portfolio. In fact, apart from verifying that the company passes the criterias, I will do NO analysis. I will make sure that a company passes all the quantitative criteria and that is it. This will be a mechanical trading system in a similar to the magic formula investing strategy. Because I am expecting that more stocks will need to be purchased for this system to function, I have established the 80-20 Account with $5000. I will add $300/month to this account.</p>
<p>You might ask why I am not combining both criteria. It is simple. I am experimenting. There is some research that suggests that we are our own worst enemies in investing, that emotion, and poor decision processes will hinder our investment performance. I want to test these theories in a real and concrete way.  With 80-20 Investing I want to remove ego and emotion and see if it is possible to make money in a more simple way. Some of the Net Net companies don&#8217;t pass the risk thresholds I have set. But I am not sure that means that they are statistically worse investments. I am attempting to discover for myself what really works.</p>
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		<title>Zecco vs. ChoiceTrade &#8211; Which is better?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I narrowed my choice for the Small Investor Portfolio&#8216;s broker, I decided I would set up an account at both Zecco and Choice Trade. One would be for the Small Investor&#8217;s Portfolio and the other for the 80-20 portfolio. I have my impressions of setting up accounts at both companies. Choice Trade- The first [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I narrowed my choice for the <a title="Chroma Investing Small Investor Portfolio" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/03/13/the-chroma-investing-small-investor-portfolio/" target="_blank">Small Investor Portfolio</a>&#8216;s <a title="Online brokers" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/03/15/finding-the-best-online-broker-for-penny-stocks-and-the-small-investor/" target="_blank">broker</a>, I decided I would set up an account at both Zecco and Choice Trade. One would be for the Small Investor&#8217;s Portfolio and the other for the 80-20 portfolio. I have my impressions of setting up accounts at both companies.</p>
<p>Choice Trade- The first two times I called, I spoke to someone who didn&#8217;t have answers to any of my questions. I was placed on hold, while he went to get the answers. In the first case the answer he gave me was wrong, so I had to call back. Choice Trade&#8217;s website was a little clunky. The electronic signature function did not work on the latest version of Safari or Firefox for Mac. I don&#8217;t know if there is any problem with Internet Explorer, but the Electronic signature function simply didn&#8217;t work. and there was no bypass. Very disappointing. When I faxed the revised paperwork with signature, I got no response. The next issue was with ACH.  There is some new area that forces a redirect. Very unprofessional looking. Choice Trade definitely feels like a broker where you are getting what you pay for and a little less. But then I called and spoke to Ron, a manager, and everything changed. Very good customer service, very helpful and all the issues were resolved quickly. I funded my Small Investor Portfolio through ACH or electronic transfer between financial institutions. This went faster than the five business days they say it would take, because they allowed me to fax them a copy of my bank balance showing that the money had been redrawn to fund the account. Ultimately, setting up an account and funding at Choice Trade took half the time of setting up and funding an account at Zecco.</p>
<p>Zecco-  A company I was prepared to dislike, because of all the complaints I read about online. They had a super easy and intuitive website. I was never confused and had no difficulty filling out the application on line. I simply printed the document when done, signed it, added a copy of my driver&#8217;s license and faxed it to Zecco. No problems. The issues I had with Zecco came later. They definitely take their time approving an account. Days go by. Finally, Zecco has a glitch in their web software. Everytime I log in to my account I have to re-sign some disclosures. Hopefully, this will be fixed tomorrow, when I call the customer service. Ultimately, they have friendly knowledgeble customer service persons and a more intuitive website, but it takes the longest I have ever seen to actually set up and fund the account.</p>
<p>During my down time I purchased shares under both accounts. I will update soon.</p>
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		<title>80-20 Investing &#8211; the Portfolio</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have decided to set up another real money portfolio to test out my ideas of 80-20 Investing, which I have previously discussed. For 20% of the effort I believe it is possible to get 80% of the investing result. The idea is fairly simple. Set up some investing criteria, and when a stock passes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have decided to set up another real money portfolio to test out my ideas of <a title="80-20 Investing" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/01/12/80-20-investing-and-other-financial-heresies/" target="_blank">80-20 Investing</a>, which I have previously discussed. For 20% of the effort I believe it is possible to get 80% of the investing result. The idea is fairly simple. Set up some investing criteria, and when a stock passes the rules you buy it. You also create criteria for selling. Such as when the stock reaches a certain percentage gain you sell it. Obviously, you also need rules for selling after a certain period of time if your stock does not appreciate.  if you do not have a gain you sell after specified period of time you sell. Also, if you find a better value proposition I may need to sell a stock before I would otherwise sell it. I will attempt to keep this a mechanistic portfolio, that is to remove my opinions, gut instincts, the emotion,  from the process, as much as is possible. I will not do a lot of analysis. In many ways this will be like holding a <a title="Magic Formula Investing" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2009/12/06/free-magic-formula-lists-chroma-investment-links/" target="_blank">Magic Formula</a> Portfolio except that I will definitely have some element of asset value element in the criteria. This will be separate from the <a title="Small Investor Portfolio" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/03/13/the-chroma-investing-small-investor-portfolio/" target="_blank">Small investor portfolio</a>, and will start with more money, initially say $5000. This should allow me to hold 10 positions of approximately $500 each.</p>
<p>This will be a true experiment in the sense that I cannot forecast the outcome. There seems to be contradictory research out there that suggests that value investing is superior to growth investing, but also that human&#8217;s are certain psychological limitations that may limit us from truly maximizing returns, even if we know we are engaging in the limiting behavior. Thus the 80-20 investing Portfolio is an attempt to remove as many of my own limitations from the process as possible.</p>
<p>The biggest hurdle to this kind of investing is devising the system with which to follow. I have almost finished the development stage for  the criteria I will use for buy and sell signals. They will of course be value oriented and research driven. I will lay the criteria out in a separate post, that should be lengthy so I can refer to the research supporting the theory of investment criteria. If you have any thoughts on this subject I would love to hear them.</p>
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		<title>Easy Concept, Potentially Profitable Investing Strategy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is really another in the Value Investing Series, but also an 80/20 Investing idea. To reiterate 80/20 investing is my value investing concept that attempts to get 80% of a solid return with 20% of the work. Not sure if it is really viable, although I am thinking of starting a test portfolio. But it is also the result of finding the website I mentioned in yesterdays blog about Empirical Finance Research.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really another in the Value Investing Series, but also an <a title="80-20 Investing at Chroma Investing" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/01/12/80-20-investing-and-other-financial-heresies/" target="_blank">80/20 Investing</a> idea. To reiterate 80/20 investing is my value investing concept that attempts to get 80% of a solid return with 20% of the work. Not sure if it is really viable, although I am thinking of starting a test portfolio. But it is also the result of finding the website I mentioned in yesterdays blog about <a title="Empirical Finance Research help" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/03/01/an-aid-to-empirical-finance-research/" target="_blank">Empirical Finance Research.</a></p>
<p>The important distinction between Value Investing and speculating is that Value Investing involves research, and some analysis. Mostly, it is about properly valuing a company and buying at a discount to intrinsic value. Speculating requires you guess the correct direction of a market, stock or commodity. Within that statement I am not sure that this concept actually falls within the simple concept of value investing I just laid out. The paper is called The <a title="Asset Growth and Effects on Stock Returns pdf" href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1335524" target="_blank"><em>Asset Growth Effect in Stock Returns</em></a> by Cooper, Gulen, and Schill. You should read it. It is not hard to follow. And they do a better job than I do of explaining their own findings. However for the 80/20 people&#8230;</p>
<p>Here is the concept: take all non financial, US stocks and look at their growth in assets, Total Assets( t)- Total Assets( t1)/ Total Assets (t1). Then you arrange then in deciles (10% groups) from highest to lowest. The lowest deciles of Asset growth stocks beat the highest decile by more than 20%/year. This equals a return of 23.28%. Not too shabby. But this is another typical value investing idea that is sort of like Einstein&#8217;s theory of relativity. The more you explore the more it defies the world that you know. This research seems to imply that hi ROA companies are likely to experience sub par returns while low ROA companies will likely have outsized returns. Isn&#8217;t that contrary to everything we learn in Investing 101? But if you look at Table 1 of the study, the high asset growth companies have an average ROA of 21%. Sounds great, right? The low asset growth rate stocks averaged -3.1% ROA.</p>
<p>There are actually a couple of problems for the practical investor. First, the strategy seems to require a relatively large outlay of stock purchases, which is simply not feasible for the small time investor. If you are required to buy 10% of the stocks evaluated that is hundreds and hundreds of stocks. Second, the <a title="Back testing what is wrong with it" href="http://chromainvesting.com/2010/02/17/the-problem-with-back-testing-investing-strategies-for-practical-investors/" target="_blank">What is wrong with Back Testing</a> phenomenon is also important to take note of here. Any back tested concept that requires a specific purchase date and rebalancing time frame, has the potential to buy and ineffective or unprofitable times, when a less inflexible model might not. But who knows. I am still reeling from the concept that low ROA may be good.</p>
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