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		<title>By: chroma</title>
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		<dc:creator>chroma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, 
Thanks for stopping by. I am not sure if Ben Graham referred to them as Net Nets. 
I think he would have referred to them as Net Current Asset Value stocks (NCAV) which is what 
Net Net is short for.  On page 169 of the Intelligent Investor he says,
 
&quot;The type of bargain issue that can be most readily identified is a
common stock that sells for less than the company’s net working
capital alone, after deducting all prior obligations.* This would
mean that the buyer would pay nothing at all for the fixed assets—
buildings, machinery, etc., or any good-will items that might exist.
Very few companies turn out to have an ultimate value less than
the working capital alone, although scattered instances may be
found. The surprising thing, rather, is that there have been so many
enterprises obtainable which have been valued in the market on
this bargain basis. A compilation made in 1957, when the market’s
level was by no means low, disclosed about 150 of such common
stocks. In Table 7-4 we summarize the result of buying, on December
31, 1957, one share of each of the 85 companies in that list for
which data appeared in Standard &amp; Poor’s Monthly Stock Guide,
and holding them for two years.
By something of a coincidence, each of the groups advanced in
the two years to somewhere in the neighborhood of the aggregate
&lt;em&gt;net-current-asset value&lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;. The gain for the entire “portfolio” in that
period was 75%, against 50% for Standard &amp; Poor’s 425 industrials.&quot;

In his commentary on Chapter 7 of the Intellignet Investor Jason Zweig refers to Net Nets 
as what Graham&#039;s followers describe as Net working capital (which Graham equated with NCAV)

I hope that helps.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
Thanks for stopping by. I am not sure if Ben Graham referred to them as Net Nets.<br />
I think he would have referred to them as Net Current Asset Value stocks (NCAV) which is what<br />
Net Net is short for.  On page 169 of the Intelligent Investor he says,</p>
<p>&#8220;The type of bargain issue that can be most readily identified is a<br />
common stock that sells for less than the company’s net working<br />
capital alone, after deducting all prior obligations.* This would<br />
mean that the buyer would pay nothing at all for the fixed assets—<br />
buildings, machinery, etc., or any good-will items that might exist.<br />
Very few companies turn out to have an ultimate value less than<br />
the working capital alone, although scattered instances may be<br />
found. The surprising thing, rather, is that there have been so many<br />
enterprises obtainable which have been valued in the market on<br />
this bargain basis. A compilation made in 1957, when the market’s<br />
level was by no means low, disclosed about 150 of such common<br />
stocks. In Table 7-4 we summarize the result of buying, on December<br />
31, 1957, one share of each of the 85 companies in that list for<br />
which data appeared in Standard &#038; Poor’s Monthly Stock Guide,<br />
and holding them for two years.<br />
By something of a coincidence, each of the groups advanced in<br />
the two years to somewhere in the neighborhood of the aggregate<br />
<em>net-current-asset value</em><strong>. The gain for the entire “portfolio” in that<br />
period was 75%, against 50% for Standard &#038; Poor’s 425 industrials.&#8221;</p>
<p>In his commentary on Chapter 7 of the Intellignet Investor Jason Zweig refers to Net Nets<br />
as what Graham&#8217;s followers describe as Net working capital (which Graham equated with NCAV)</p>
<p>I hope that helps.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, are you aware of where Graham first used the term net-net stock (or indeed whether he did) or whetheer the term has evolved around his concept? I can&#039;t find reference to it in either Intelligent Investor or Security Analysis even though I thought it was suppposed to be in there - the concept is definitely outlined there just not the term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, are you aware of where Graham first used the term net-net stock (or indeed whether he did) or whetheer the term has evolved around his concept? I can&#8217;t find reference to it in either Intelligent Investor or Security Analysis even though I thought it was suppposed to be in there &#8211; the concept is definitely outlined there just not the term.</p>
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